Re: [Cooker] rpmsrate & task-kde discussion: default KDE desktop

[Tomasz PaweÅ Gajc]

Dnia poniedziaÅek, 12 lutego 2007, Frederik Himpe napisaÅ:
> I did a Cooker installation last week (both KDE and Gnome desktops), and I
> have some comments about the choice of applications which were installed by
> default. I have strongly the impression that rpmsrate does need some
> serious clean-up, to reflect the state of applications today.
>
> Anyway, here are my comments about KDE applications which were installed by
> default.
>
> 1. In a default KDE applications, there are at least 3 different picture
> viewers installed (4 if you also count Digikam/Showfoto). This is really
> too much:
> kdegraphics-kuickshow (task-kde)
> kdegraphics-kview (rpmsrate)
> gwenview (rpmsrate)
> digikam (rpmsrate: digikamimageplugins kipi-plugins)
>
> Please only keep gwenview and digikam: they are the only ones which are
> being actively maintained, and have the best features and user interfaces.
>
> Reported also in Bugzilla: http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=27179
>
> 2. kdenetwork-ksirc (dependency of task-kde): the development of this
> IRC-client seems halted for some years already, and does not have the best
> interfaces/features. Please drop it from the default install. If an IRC
> client has to be installed, install konversation (which should be moved to
> main).
>
> 3. kover (rpmsrate): application is dead for about 3 years, and is not
> rated very high (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9968).
> People are better of using something like Scribus, Karbon or OOo Draw to
> make their cd covers (e.g.
> http://www.kde-files.org/content/show.php?content=24223 -
> http://www.kde-files.org/content/show.php?content=25107)
>
> 4. kdegames & kdetoys: They were installed, although I did not choose the
> games category. Maybe because in CAT_DEVELOPMENT there is
> libkdegames1-devel with priority 5 or because of Suggests tag in task-kde
> package. Please make sure games are not installed if I don't choose games
> in the installer.
>
> 5. kdepim-kpilot (rpmsrate in CAT_KDE, but don't forget
> libkdepim2-kpilot-devel in CAT_DEVELOPMENT): I do not have a Palm Pilot
> (probably like the majority of people). Don't install it by default, but
> only if one is detected.
>
> 6. kdebase-kdeprintfax and kdegraphics-kfax (rpmsrate : I do not have a fax
> on my computer (probably like majority of people): please install it only
> if such a device is found.
>
> 7. kdeutils-kdf (rpmsrate): is this still really useful? Disk usage can be
> seen easily from Konqueror, while mounting is done automatically.
>
> 8. kdeaccessibility: while this program can be useful, even necessary, for
> some people, it is not to lots of other people. As the same problem happens
> in Gnome, I would propose to create a seperate category in the installer,
> which the user can check or uncheck, depending on his needs.
>
> So, these are my most imporant comments. I have similar comments about the
> default Gnome installation, and other desktop-irrelevant packages, but
> these will have to wait tomorrow.

Full agree on almost all points, excluding last one.
Accessibility software should be installed by default - think! 
For me this should be a mandatory to install such software as a default, not 
every one like me or you are in 99,99% perfect.

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Regards,
TPG - MandrivaLinux's contributor

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