[Cooker] Re: Re: Open Movie Editor: the video editor for the beginners

[Helge Hielscher]

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:08:03 -0500, Austin Acton wrote:

> On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 22:54 +0100, Helge Hielscher wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:36:53 +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
>> 
>> > Web site: http://openmovieeditor.sourceforge.net/HomePage
>> > 
>> > IMO, this editor is for video what audacity is for the sound. It is
>> > already in "contrib" and should be the main tool for video in "main".
>> 
>> IMHO the main tool should be the video editor that is most stable and
>> works with common hardware (unlike cinelerra) and is not limited to
>> plain dv (sorry Kino).
>> AFAICS the only contender so far is kdenlive (did anyone try blender?).
> 
> What "hardware" does cinelerra not work with?  It works with all
> "hardware" as far as I know.

a) it is to slow to be usable on this computer
b) does not work well on AMD/ATI
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386
 
> Kino CAN import and export almost any format, contrary to your comment.

And contrary to Kino's interface.

> However, yes, it does convert to dv internally to do the editing, which
> is a waste of resources.  However, it works well and is easy to use.

Thanks. I will give it a second chance.
 
> Openmovieeditor is totally unstable for me.  And it's hideous.

Same for me.

> Kdenlive requires KDE libs, so can't be the default for GNOME desktop,
> sorry.  (MAYBE if it was QT based, but not KDE).

I don't care about the libraries if it would work best.

> Lve is a bit jokey.  Lives is too esoteric.

Lve does not seem to work here.
$ lve
lve: symbol lookup error: lve: undefined symbol: ac3_decoder

For cutting mpeg2 I use projectx.

> 
> Diva would be nice if it was complete and didn't hang all the time.

Project seems to be down. http://www.diva-project.org/ gives a 404.

> 
> pitivi is okay - good import/export support, but missing a lot of normal
> features and crashes occasionally.

Pitivi was unusable for me (crash)
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386

> So to me, it looks like kino is the least of many evils for now.  Pitivi
> would be a reasonable second choice.  Diva seems like the best of the
> future projects.

I am not against keeping Kino for DV, but another stable video editor (one
of the above?) would be highly welcome for 2008.1.

Regards,
Helge